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E81 Episode 81: WHA Stars

Do these Canadian WHA stars belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Episode Notes

Real Cloutier: 1979-85, 6 seasons, 4 quality

  • Totals:
  • 146G,
  • 198A for
  • 344P,
  • +16 in
  • 318 Games
  • Era: Of the hundreds of skaters to play in at least 318 Games between 1979 and 1985, Cloutier is
  • 60th in Goals
  • 31st in GPG (doesn’t qualify)
  • 75th in Assists
  • 34th in APG (doesn’t qualify)
  • 65th in Points
  • 24th in PPG (doesn’t qualify)
  • T-128th in Plus/Minus
  • t-50th in Offensive Point Shares
  • Not in the Top 200 in Defensive Point Shares
  • 93rd in Point Shares
  • 82-game average: 38G, 51A for 89P, +4
  • 3-year peak (1979-82): 80-game average of 43G, 55A for 98P, +11
  • Playoffs:
  • 7G,
  • 5A for 
  • 12P,
  • -22 in
  • 25 Games
  • Era: Of the hundreds of skaters to play in at least 20 playoff games between 1979 and 1985, Cloutier is
  • T-110th in playoff Goals
  • T-74th in playoff GPG (doesn’t actually qualify)
  • Not in the Top 200 in playoff Assists
  • T-185th in playoff APG (doesn’t actually qualify)
  • T-169th in playoff Points
  • T-129th in playoff PPG (doesn’t actually qualify)
  • Not in the Top 200 in playoff Plus/Minus
  • Not in the Top 200 in playoff Games

Marc Tardif: 1969-73, 1979-83; 8 seasons, 7 quality

  • Totals:
  • 194G,
  • 207A for
  • 401P
  • +23 in
  • 517 Games;
  • 31.7 Point Shares
  • Era:
  • Of the 195 skaters to play in at least 164 games (2 modern seasons) between 1969 and 1973, Tardif is
  • 49th in Goals
  • 35th in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify)
  • 94th in Assists
  • 82nd in APG (doesn’t actually qualify)
  • 71st in Points
  • 55th in PPG (doesn’t actually qualify)
  • 43rd in Plus/Minus
  • 60th in Offensive Point Shares
  • 105th (41st Forward) in Defensive Point Shares
  • 87th in Point Shares
  • 105th in Games
  • Of the 180 skaters to play in at least 246 games (3 modern seasons) between 1979 and 1983, Tardif is
  • 39th in Goals
  • 31st in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify)
  • 81st in Assists
  • 61st in APG (doesn’t actually qualify)
  • 59th in Points
  • 43rd in PPG (doesn’t actually qualify)
  • 150th in Plus/Minus
  • 50th in Offensive Point Shares
  • 175th (114th Forward - 4th last) in Defensive Point Shares
  • 99th in Point Shares
  • 125th in Games
  • 82-game average: 31G, 33A for 64P, +4
  • 3-year peak (1979-82): 80-game average: 39G, 40A for 79P, -14
  • Playoffs:
  • 13G,
  • 15A for
  • 28P,
  • -10 in
  • 62 Games
  • Era:
  • Of the 37 skaters to play in at least 40 playoff games between 1969 and 1973, Tardif is
  • 18th in playoff Goals
  • 16th in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify)
  • 30th in Assists
  • 29th (2nd last among qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify) in APG
  • 23rd in Points
  • 22nd (last among qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify) in PPG
  • 23rd in Plus/Minus
  • Last in Games
  • Of the 193 skaters to play in at least 20 playoff games between 1979 and 1983, Tardif is
  • 143rd in Goals
  • 138th in Assists
  • 148th in Points
  • 181st in Plus/Minus
  • 155th in Games

JC Tremblay: 1959-72, 13 seasons, 11 quality

  • Totals:
  • 57G,
  • 306A (11th/8th D All Time at his departure to the WHA)
  • 363P (12th/8th D All Time at his departure),
  • +244 (5th All Time, 2nd D, at his departure - Orr, Esposito, Hull, Mikita) in
  • 796 Games (17th D All Time at his departure);
  • 81.4 PS (16th/13th D All Time at his departure);
  • At his departure, Tremblay was 12th/11th All Time in Defensive Point Shares
  • At his departure, Tremblay was 19th/15th All Time among D in Offensive Point Shares
  • Per Game: At his departure to the WHA, Tremblay was, among D,
  • 6th All Time in APG
  • Tremblay doesn’t meet either the GPG or the PPG requirement, but if we lower them to 50G (-150G) and 350P (-150P) respectively, Tremblay was, among D:
  • 8th/4th All Time in PPG - Kelly, Schmidt (?!?!?!), Gadsby?, Clapper, Pilote, Mohns, Harvey
  • Era: Of the 11 D (including Mohns) to play at least 656 games (8 modern seasons) between 1959 and 1972, Tremblay is
  • 7th/6th in Goals
  • 9th/8th (last/2nd last) in GPG (9 qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify)
  • 3rd/2nd in Assists
  • 2nd in APG (3 qualifying players)
  • 3rd/2nd in Points
  • 3rd/2nd in PPG (4 qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify)
  • 1st in Plus/Minus (by +57)
  • 4th/3rd in Offensive Point Shares
  • 2nd in Defensive Point Shares
  • 2nd in Point Shares
  • 6th in Games
  • 82-game average: 6G, 31A for 38P, +25; 8.4 PS
  • 3-year peak (1969-72): 78-game average of 7G, 44A for 50P, +27; 9.4 PS
  • Playoffs:
  • 14G (5th/2nd D All Time at his departure to the WHA - Kelly, Schmidt?!?!, Orr, Mohns)
  • 51A (4th/3rd D All Time at his departure - Harvey, Kelly, Pilote) for
  • 65P (4th/3rd D All Time at his departure - Kelly, Harvey, Orr)
  • +37 (3rd All Time at his departure -  Orr, Dallas Smith)
  • 108 Games (9th D All Time at his departure)
  • Per Game: Among D at his departure, Tremblay was
  • 3rd All Time in playoff APG (Orr, Pilote - 8 qualifying players)
  • 3rd All Time in playoff PPG (Orr, Pilote - 5 qualifying players);
  • Tremblay doesn’t qualify for the GPG leaderboards but if the qualifier is lowered to 10G, Tremblay was
  • T-9th All Time in GPG (12 qualifying players)
  • Era: Of the 31 D to play in 41 playoff games between 1959 and 1972, Tremblay is
  • 3rd/2nd in playoff Goals
  • t-4th/3rd in playoff GPG (6 players, only Orr actually qualifies)
  • T-1st in playoff Assists
  • 4th/3rd in playoff APG (5 qualifying players)
  • 2nd in playoff Points (behind by 1)
  • 4th/3rd in playoff PPG (4 qualifying players)
  • 3rd in playoff Plus/Minus
  • 2nd in playoff Games

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