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E81 Episode 81: WHA Stars
Do these Canadian WHA stars belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame?
Episode Notes
Real Cloutier: 1979-85, 6 seasons, 4 quality
- Totals:
- 146G,
- 198A for
- 344P,
- +16 in
- 318 Games
- Era: Of the hundreds of skaters to play in at least 318 Games between 1979 and 1985, Cloutier is
- 60th in Goals
- 31st in GPG (doesn’t qualify)
- 75th in Assists
- 34th in APG (doesn’t qualify)
- 65th in Points
- 24th in PPG (doesn’t qualify)
- T-128th in Plus/Minus
- t-50th in Offensive Point Shares
- Not in the Top 200 in Defensive Point Shares
- 93rd in Point Shares
- 82-game average: 38G, 51A for 89P, +4
- 3-year peak (1979-82): 80-game average of 43G, 55A for 98P, +11
- Playoffs:
- 7G,
- 5A for
- 12P,
- -22 in
- 25 Games
- Era: Of the hundreds of skaters to play in at least 20 playoff games between 1979 and 1985, Cloutier is
- T-110th in playoff Goals
- T-74th in playoff GPG (doesn’t actually qualify)
- Not in the Top 200 in playoff Assists
- T-185th in playoff APG (doesn’t actually qualify)
- T-169th in playoff Points
- T-129th in playoff PPG (doesn’t actually qualify)
- Not in the Top 200 in playoff Plus/Minus
- Not in the Top 200 in playoff Games
Marc Tardif: 1969-73, 1979-83; 8 seasons, 7 quality
- Totals:
- 194G,
- 207A for
- 401P
- +23 in
- 517 Games;
- 31.7 Point Shares
- Era:
- Of the 195 skaters to play in at least 164 games (2 modern seasons) between 1969 and 1973, Tardif is
- 49th in Goals
- 35th in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify)
- 94th in Assists
- 82nd in APG (doesn’t actually qualify)
- 71st in Points
- 55th in PPG (doesn’t actually qualify)
- 43rd in Plus/Minus
- 60th in Offensive Point Shares
- 105th (41st Forward) in Defensive Point Shares
- 87th in Point Shares
- 105th in Games
- Of the 180 skaters to play in at least 246 games (3 modern seasons) between 1979 and 1983, Tardif is
- 39th in Goals
- 31st in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify)
- 81st in Assists
- 61st in APG (doesn’t actually qualify)
- 59th in Points
- 43rd in PPG (doesn’t actually qualify)
- 150th in Plus/Minus
- 50th in Offensive Point Shares
- 175th (114th Forward - 4th last) in Defensive Point Shares
- 99th in Point Shares
- 125th in Games
- 82-game average: 31G, 33A for 64P, +4
- 3-year peak (1979-82): 80-game average: 39G, 40A for 79P, -14
- Playoffs:
- 13G,
- 15A for
- 28P,
- -10 in
- 62 Games
- Era:
- Of the 37 skaters to play in at least 40 playoff games between 1969 and 1973, Tardif is
- 18th in playoff Goals
- 16th in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify)
- 30th in Assists
- 29th (2nd last among qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify) in APG
- 23rd in Points
- 22nd (last among qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify) in PPG
- 23rd in Plus/Minus
- Last in Games
- Of the 193 skaters to play in at least 20 playoff games between 1979 and 1983, Tardif is
- 143rd in Goals
- 138th in Assists
- 148th in Points
- 181st in Plus/Minus
- 155th in Games
JC Tremblay: 1959-72, 13 seasons, 11 quality
- Totals:
- 57G,
- 306A (11th/8th D All Time at his departure to the WHA)
- 363P (12th/8th D All Time at his departure),
- +244 (5th All Time, 2nd D, at his departure - Orr, Esposito, Hull, Mikita) in
- 796 Games (17th D All Time at his departure);
- 81.4 PS (16th/13th D All Time at his departure);
- At his departure, Tremblay was 12th/11th All Time in Defensive Point Shares
- At his departure, Tremblay was 19th/15th All Time among D in Offensive Point Shares
- Per Game: At his departure to the WHA, Tremblay was, among D,
- 6th All Time in APG
- Tremblay doesn’t meet either the GPG or the PPG requirement, but if we lower them to 50G (-150G) and 350P (-150P) respectively, Tremblay was, among D:
- 8th/4th All Time in PPG - Kelly, Schmidt (?!?!?!), Gadsby?, Clapper, Pilote, Mohns, Harvey
- Era: Of the 11 D (including Mohns) to play at least 656 games (8 modern seasons) between 1959 and 1972, Tremblay is
- 7th/6th in Goals
- 9th/8th (last/2nd last) in GPG (9 qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify)
- 3rd/2nd in Assists
- 2nd in APG (3 qualifying players)
- 3rd/2nd in Points
- 3rd/2nd in PPG (4 qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify)
- 1st in Plus/Minus (by +57)
- 4th/3rd in Offensive Point Shares
- 2nd in Defensive Point Shares
- 2nd in Point Shares
- 6th in Games
- 82-game average: 6G, 31A for 38P, +25; 8.4 PS
- 3-year peak (1969-72): 78-game average of 7G, 44A for 50P, +27; 9.4 PS
- Playoffs:
- 14G (5th/2nd D All Time at his departure to the WHA - Kelly, Schmidt?!?!, Orr, Mohns)
- 51A (4th/3rd D All Time at his departure - Harvey, Kelly, Pilote) for
- 65P (4th/3rd D All Time at his departure - Kelly, Harvey, Orr)
- +37 (3rd All Time at his departure - Orr, Dallas Smith)
- 108 Games (9th D All Time at his departure)
- Per Game: Among D at his departure, Tremblay was
- 3rd All Time in playoff APG (Orr, Pilote - 8 qualifying players)
- 3rd All Time in playoff PPG (Orr, Pilote - 5 qualifying players);
- Tremblay doesn’t qualify for the GPG leaderboards but if the qualifier is lowered to 10G, Tremblay was
- T-9th All Time in GPG (12 qualifying players)
- Era: Of the 31 D to play in 41 playoff games between 1959 and 1972, Tremblay is
- 3rd/2nd in playoff Goals
- t-4th/3rd in playoff GPG (6 players, only Orr actually qualifies)
- T-1st in playoff Assists
- 4th/3rd in playoff APG (5 qualifying players)
- 2nd in playoff Points (behind by 1)
- 4th/3rd in playoff PPG (4 qualifying players)
- 3rd in playoff Plus/Minus
- 2nd in playoff Games
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